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Old 11-23-2009, 05:48 AM   #1
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New engine or BHG repair?
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Depends on the condition of the engine prior to the BHG. If it ran great, used no oil, and had relatively low miles, I'd opt for the repair.

There are several reasons I'd go that route; the first is that a used engine is almost always going to be an unknown quantity.

The second is expense, especially if you're paying someone else to do the work. The labor in replacing the engine is bound to be nearly as expensive, if not moreso, then replacing the head gaskets, and that's not even factoring the cost of the replacement engine. A G1 head gasket repair isn't so involved or expensive as a G2. Also, if you go with another engine, you're going to have a lot of incidental costs, as you're going to want to do the timing belt and all of the seals and hoses while the engine is out of the car. The only exception to that is if you're certain of the history of the engine (its maintenance is up to date), and you know it hasn't been sitting idle for very long.

The only exception to my advice would be if the BHG caused your engine to severely overheat. If that's the case, then I'd opt for the best used engine I could find.

Another consideration is the condition of the rest of the car. If it's in reasonable shape and relatively rust-free, then it's worth the expense. If not, then you're probably better off just trying to find another Legend. From what I recall, your Legend was a one-owner, so it's probably a good candidate for repair.

If you do opt for another engine, there's other things you'll need to know as you get started. Good luck, and keep us posted.
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New Engine. This question is becoming rhetorical
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That's the answer for a G2, but not for a G1. First, the G1 doesn't have a propensity for blowing head gaskets; in fact, it's extremely rare. Second, if a G1 does experience a BHG, it's not going to be a $2,000.00 repair, like you would encounter on a G2.
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I'd say just repair the head gaskets.
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If I only had the money and the time

And as above said, the problem I am having is the BHG info I find is always about G2's and not G1's. Nice to hear it will be cheaper on my car, I'm going to take it into a good mechanic I was refered to and have them tell me if everything else seems tiptop, or with either new engine or head replacement or very depressing a new car.

What I'm wondering is my cars exaust system basically fucked? And what is the realistic chance they'll get up in there and be like oh and all this is fucked up to, gonna be like anther $1000, derp.
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+1...on the G1 you've got to factor in all of the items that awelliott mentioned.

In the FAQ there is a list of items to replace when replacing an engine. when removing the heads, things like coolants/oil cooler hoses, TB/WP, and an intake manifold cleaning would be easily accessible and worth doing as well...
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If I only had the money and the time

And as above said, the problem I am having is the BHG info I find is always about G2's and not G1's. Nice to hear it will be cheaper on my car, I'm going to take it into a good mechanic I was refered to and have them tell me if everything else seems tiptop, or with either new engine or head replacement or very depressing a new car.

What I'm wondering is my cars exaust system basically fucked? And what is the realistic chance they'll get up in there and be like oh and all this is fucked up to, gonna be like anther $1000, derp.
A BHG shouldn't affect your exhaust system, though you'll want to verify that your catalytic converter is okay. If it's shot, you can get a replacement for $100.00, give or take.

What you want to try to do is find out what caused the BHG, just to ensure that those conditions aren't present once you repair it. It could be driving habits, such as lugging the engine if you have a manual transmission. It could be a leak in the cooling system the you neglected to spot, or a blocked radiator, stuck thermostat, or a number of other causes.

It may be impossible to determine the cause; if not, then you want to thoroughly inspect every part of the cooling system once the repair is complete. As Gabe said, I'd replace the thermostat and any old or questionable cooling hoses as a matter of routine. If you're anywhere near time for a timing belt replacement, I'd do that as well since the heads have to come off anyway. These things will drive up the cost of repair, but it's cheaper to do it while you have the car apart, plus you won't have to worry about them for another 90k miles.
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I was thinking G2's but my answer remains the same. I am not a G1 guy but im thinking that if you were going to spend the money you might as well do it all up right...what would be the point other wise? If you get a BHG and dont scrap it or part it out I would say that if youre willing to invest a couple thousand into it you would want to keep it for several more years....i like the piece of mind knowing that everything is rebuilt and replaced
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